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Have and Receive

Data

(1) Thom 41
(2) 2Q: Luke 19:(25-)26 = Matt 25:29
(3) Mark 4:25 = Matt 13:12 = Luke 8:18b

 

Texts

(1) Thom 41

/41:1/ Jesus said, "Those who have something in hand will be given more, /2/and those who have nothing will be deprived of even the little they have." [Complete Gospels]

 

(2) 2Q: Luke 19:(25-)26 = Matt 25:29

Luke 19:(25-)26
/19:25/ (And they said to him, 'Lord, he has ten pounds!') /26/ 'I tell you, to all those who have, more will be given; but from those who have nothing, even what they have willl be taken away.

= Matt 25:29
For to all those who have, more will be given, and they will have an abundance; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away.

 

(3) Mark 4:25 = Matt 13:12 = Luke 8:18b

Mark 4:25
For to those who have, more will be given; and from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away."

= Matt 13:12
For to those who have, more will be given, and they will have an abundance; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away.

= Luke 8:18b
Then pay attention to how you listen; for to those who have, more will be given; and from those who do not have, even what they seem to have will be taken away."

 

Notes

 

John Dominic Crossan

Item: 40
Stratum: I (30-60 CE)
Attestation
: Triple
Historicity
: +
Common Sayings Tradition
: Yes

Crossan draws upon this cluster in his discussion of the Kingdom and Riches complex [Historical Jesus, 276] within the broader cluster of sayings connected to the "brokerless kingdom" theme. He notes several clusters that contribute to the Kingdom and Riches complex, including 94 The Rich Farmer [1/2], 99 Treasure in Heaven [1/2], 86 Serving Two Masters [1/2], 103 Give Without Return [1/2], 31 First and Last [1/3] and 40 Have and Receive [1/3]. The last two sayings are"twin paradoxes" which anticipate a situation where the rich and powerful are classed as poor and powerless, while the reverse applies to those who have been poor and powerless.

 

Jesus Seminar

Text

Item

 Source

JS Mtg

%Red

%Pink

%Gray

%Black

W Avg

Color
Thom 41

95

Q, K, T

89Son

25

11

14

50

0.37

Gray

90Son

 0

61

30

9

0.51

Pink
Luke 19:26

95

Q, K, T

89Son

25

11

14

50

0.37

Gray

90Son

0

57

35

9

0.49

Gray
Matt 25:29

95

Q, K, T

89Son

25

11

14

50

0.37

Gray

90Son

0

57

35

9

0.49

Gray
Mark 4:25

95

Q, K, T

89Son

25

11

14

50

0.37

Gray

90Son

0

61

30

9

0.51

Pink
Matt 13:12

95

Q, K, T

89Son

25

11

14

50

0.37

Gray

90Son

0

57

35

9

0.49

Gray
Luke 8:18

95

Q, K, T

89Son

25

11

14

50

0.37

Gray

90Son

0

61

30

9

0.51

Pink

This is one of those sayings that was reconsidered by the Seminar. In this case, the original outcome of a uniform Gray result for all versions of the saying was replaced by a Pink result in Thomas, Mark and Q (Luke). For observers of the Seminar it is interesting to note that while 25% of the Fellows gave the saying a Red vote in the original round, not a single Red vote was cast for any version of the saying in the second round. Despite this, the overall weighted average for each version increased from 0.37 to either 0.49 or 0.51.

The commentary in The Five Gospels does not acknowledge this dramatic shift in opinion, but it does observe that "Fellows who voted gray or black regarded the saying as a maxim of conventional wisdom that had been attributed to Jesus" while others understood the saying as a "radical reversal of expectations" and thus a "plausible part of Jesus' repertoire." (p. 58)

Gerd Luedemann

Luedemann [Jesus, 30] regards the saying as a traditional Jewish maxim that has been attributed to Jesus. He notes the parallel saying in IV Ezra 7:25: "Empty for the empty, but fullness for the full."

 

John P. Meier

Meier does not comment on this saying in the first three volumes of A Marginal Jew.

 

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