working together for the future of faith
Mark 1:16-20 = Matt 4:18-22
(1b) GEbi 2
(2) Luke 5:4-11
(3) John 21:1-8
(1a) Mark 1:16-20 = Matt 4:18-22
1:16 As Jesus passed along the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea--for they were fishermen. 1:17 And Jesus said to them, "Follow me and I will make you fish for people." 1:18 And immediately they left their nets and followed him. 1:19 As he went a little farther, he saw James son of Zebedee and his brother John, who were in their boat mending the nets. 1:20 Immediately he called them; and they left their father Zebedee in the boat with the hired men, and followed him.
= Matt 4:18-22
4:18 As he walked by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea--for they were fishermen. 4:19 And he said to them, "Follow me, and I will make you fish for people." 4:20 Immediately they left their nets and followed him. 4:21 As he went from there, he saw two other brothers, James son of Zebedee and his brother John, in the boat with their father Zebedee, mending their nets, and he called them. 4:22 Immediately they left the boat and their father, and followed him.
(1b) GEbi 2
Ch. 2 At any rate, in the gospel that they call "According to Matthew," which is not complete but adulterated and mutilated---they call it the "Hebrew" gospel---is found the following:
1 There was this man named Jesus, who was about thirty years old, who chose us. 2 And when he came to Capernaum, he entered the house of Simon, who was nicknamed Peter. He then began to speak as follows: 3 "As I was walking along by the lake of Tiberias, I chose John and James, sons of Zebedee, and Simon and Andrew and Thaddeus and Simon the Zealot and Judas the Iscariot. 4 Then I summoned you, Matthew, while you were sitting at the toll booth, and you followed me. 5 Therefore, I want you to be twelve apostles, to symbolize Israel." [Complete Gospels]
(2) Luke 5:4-11
5:4 When he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, "Put out into the deep water and let down your nets for a catch." 5:5 Simon answered, "Master, we have worked all night long but have caught nothing. Yet if you say so, I will let down the nets." 5:6 When they had done this, they caught so many fish that their nets were beginning to break. 5:7 So they signaled their partners in the other boat to come and help them. And they came and filled both boats, so that they began to sink. 5:8 But when Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, "Go away from me, Lord, for I am a sinful man!" 5:9 For he and all who were with him were amazed at the catch of fish that they had taken; 5:10 and so also were James and John, sons of Zebedee, who were partners with Simon. Then Jesus said to Simon, "Do not be afraid; from now on you will be catching people." 5:11 When they had brought their boats to shore, they left everything and followed him.
(3) John 21:1-8
21:1 After these things Jesus showed himself again to the disciples by the Sea of Tiberias; and he showed himself in this way. 21:2 Gathered there together were Simon Peter, Thomas called the Twin, Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two others of his disciples. 21:3 Simon Peter said to them, "I am going fishing." They said to him, "We will go with you." They went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing. 21:4 Just after daybreak, Jesus stood on the beach; but the disciples did not know that it was Jesus. 21:5 Jesus said to them, "Children, you have no fish, have you?" They answered him, "No." 21:6 He said to them, "Cast the net to the right side of the boat, and you will find some." So they cast it, and now they were not able to haul it in because there were so many fish. 21:7 That disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on some clothes, for he was naked, and jumped into the sea. 21:8 But the other disciples came in the boat, dragging the net full of fish, for they were not far from the land, only about a hundred yards off.
RCL: Year B, Epiphany 3
ECUSA & RC: Year B, Ordinary Sunday 3
John Dominic Crossan
Stratum: II (60-80 CE)
Crossan [Historical Jesus, 407-10] suggests that this item has developed from a post-Easter appearance (John 21) to simple call narrative (Mark 1):
Recalling the chronological sequence of the Gospels from Mark to Luke to John, one might easily judge that 190 Fishing for Humans [2/3] developed from a non-miraculous saying of Jesus in Mark, to a miraculous symbolization in Luke, to be finally displaced into a more climactic post-resurrectional setting in John. All the internal evidence, however, points in exactly the opposite direction. The unit's trajectory is from John to Luke to Mark, and the miracle, far from a later insertion, is a later deletion. Notice, for example, that Peter's confession of his sinfulness in Luke 5:8 makes far less sense there than in a postresurrectional situation after he had denied Jesus during his trial. ... The complex 190 Fishing for Humans is therefore a companion piece to 128 Walking on Water [1/2] and carries exactly the same meaning and message. To row all night without Jesus is to get nowhere; to fish all night without Jesus is to catch nothing. But, of course, it is the leadership group of the disciples who are both rowing and fishing, and it is to them that Jesus' resurrectional assistance is forthcoming. (p. 410)
Color Mark 1:16-20 185 K 87Sal 8 20 24 48 0.29 Gray Matt 4:18-22 185 K 87Sal 8 20 24 48 0.29 Gray GEbi 2 185 K 87Sal 0 0 4 96 0.01 Black Luke 5:1-11 185 K 87Sal 0 12 8 80 0.11 Black John 21:1-14 185 J 87Sal 0 8 0 92 0.05 Black
The commentary in The Five Gospels observes:
The metaphor of fishing for people may go back to Jesus. The saying in its present form, however, is not the sort of aphorism to have been repeated during the oral period. "Become my followers and I'll have you fishing for people" is suitable only for the story in which it is now embedded, since only a few of his followers were originally fishermen. Further, as scholars have long noted, the story of the call of the first disciples is expressed in vocabulary typical of Mark, which suggests that Mark created both the story and the saying. (p. 41)
Meier has an extended discussion of the disciples in the third volume of A Marginal Jew [III,19-285]. One of the elements of discipleship that he considers is the initiative taken by Jesus in calling certain persons to be his followers:
One striking trait, found in a number of different Gospel sources, is that Jesus seizes the initiative in calling people to follow him. Three clear examples are given in the Marcan tradition: the call of the first four disciples (Peter, Andrew, James, and John) in Mark 1:16-20; the call of Levi the toll collector in 2:14; and the (unsuccessful) call of the rich man in Mark 10:17-22. in each case, Jesus issues a peremptory call to follow him, a call addressed to people who have not taken the initiative of asking to follow him. (p. 50)
Meier also notes that the promise to become fishers of humans is only made to Andrew and Peter; and is not extended to James and John.
When he does turn to the question of historicity, Meier asserts that the term "to fish humans" [halieis anthropon] is sufficiently distinctive to be identified as a phrase deriving from Jesus:
The exact phrase never occurs in the OT, and the metaphor of fishing for human beings (or using a hook to catch them) is relatively rare. When it occurs, it always has a hostile sense of capturing or killing human beings [n. 122 refers to Jer 16:16; Ezek 29:4-5; Amos 4:2; Hab 1:14-17]. The metaphor occurs at times in the Qumran literature, likewise in a negative context of destruction or judgment [n. 123 refers to 1QH 3:26; 5:7-8]. The metaphor of "catching men" is also found with a negative sense in later rabbinic literature. Thus, there is no real parallel to Jesus' positive, salvific use of the metaphor in the Jewish tradition before or after him. (p. 160)
This poem originated as a contribution to the HODOS online community by Gene Stecher. It is published with Gene's consent but he explicitly retains full rights as the creative author. You welcome to use it for personal study and worship, but it should not be published in any other form without the author's prior consent. Index to Gene Stecher's poems
Seeing through gray and black dimly:
Mk 1:16-20; Mt 4:18-22; Lk 5:1-11; Jn 1:35-51; GEbi 2.
So he knew the sea, storm and calm,
nets empty and full,
fear and frustration.
Give us enough fish for this day!
even hired hands.
How good a living was this,
the constant mending of nets?
Something better from Nazareth
for Billy and Bobby,
for Joey and Jimmy?
Dad's gotta make a living!
Julie wasn't asked!
What's that all about?
I guess Personal Assistants
don't sit on thrones of judgment!
Fishing for people, fishing for people....
visions of full nets
with a verbal hook?
Just do what Jesus said to do!
My investment portfolio,
will it look better,
inside to out,
when I find the genuine Israelite?
Certainly Palestine can hope!
or will it look better,
outside to in,
when he sees me under the fig tree?
Certainly Palestine can hope!